HP TS-LB23L - Strona 7

zenonz · 05.01.2019, 01:35

Hi jadburner,

50% off-topic - have you checked BD-R readability of this drive? I don't know if my copy is dying after reading maybe 10-20 discs, but I noticed that it doesn't read some discs - it recognizes media type, reads MID code, but claims that media is empty.

So far I came to a following list:

Kod:

MID               TS-LB23D
CMCMAG-BA3-000    "empty" (TDK)
CMCMAG-BA5-000    50%
CMCMAG-BA5-000    ok
CMCMAG-BA5-000    ok
CMCMAG-BA5-000    ok
CMCMAG-DI6-000    ok
INFOME-R30-000    "empty" (Philips)
MEI-RA1-001       ok
MEI-T01-001       ok
MEI-T02-001       ok
PHILIP-R04-000    ok
RITEK-BR2-000     ok
TDKBLD-RBB-000    "empty" (FTI Pro)
UMEBDR-016-000    "empty" (Kodak)
VERBAT-IMa-000    ok
VERBAT-IMc-000    ok
VERBAT-IMe-000    ok
VERBAT-IMu-000    "empty" (Verbatim LTH)

I assume that it can be an issue of my unit, but strangely it reads flawlessy terrible copies of PHILIP-R04 or BD-RE DL...

**jadburner** · 07.01.2019, 05:51

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Hi jadburner,

50% off-topic - have you checked BD-R readability of this drive? I don't know if my copy is dying after reading maybe 10-20 discs, but I noticed that it doesn't read some discs - it recognizes media type, reads MID code, but claims that media is empty.

So far I came to a following list:

Kod:

MID               TS-LB23D
CMCMAG-BA3-000    "empty" (TDK)
CMCMAG-BA5-000    50%
CMCMAG-BA5-000    ok
CMCMAG-BA5-000    ok
CMCMAG-BA5-000    ok
CMCMAG-DI6-000    ok
INFOME-R30-000    "empty" (Philips)
MEI-RA1-001       ok
MEI-T01-001       ok
MEI-T02-001       ok
PHILIP-R04-000    ok
RITEK-BR2-000     ok
TDKBLD-RBB-000    "empty" (FTI Pro)
UMEBDR-016-000    "empty" (Kodak)
VERBAT-IMa-000    ok
VERBAT-IMc-000    ok
VERBAT-IMe-000    ok
VERBAT-IMu-000    "empty" (Verbatim LTH)

I assume that it can be an issue of my unit, but strangely it reads flawlessy terrible copies of PHILIP-R04 or BD-RE DL...

Hi, zenonz. No, I have not tested BD media with my drive. Did you want me to test the media you had problems with?

zenonz · 22.09.2019, 23:27

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Hi, zenonz. No, I have not tested BD media with my drive. Did you want me to test the media you had problems with?

Hi jadburner,

I missed that I missed to answer you

Yeah, that was my original wish, but I have just retired my copy. It turned out, that the unit got bigger and bigger issues to read CDs and DVDs, however CD/DVD burning did work flawlessly. I suspected some driver issues after playing with AnyDVD and DVDFab, because usually cold boot with disc in was successful.

Now I definitely excluded external factors, tried the drive in external case and with another PC - BD laser reads BD-ROM discs, but with BD-R and BD-RE shows media as empty (strangely each time is able the MID of inserted disc independently of type). Cleaning with compressed air and some cotton pads did not bring any BD improvement, CD/DVD readability was restored to normal.

I even tried flashing with older SC01 and re-flashing with original SC01 firmware - no luck there.

I wonder if the diode itself was so crappy or maybe the environment killed it? I noticed some fine dust inside of the unit, there is no sealing at all that could stop it.

I just installed Optiarc BD-5750L instead, (BC-5500S kept crashing for some reason), but if the dust is the killer I'd rather save the burner in a sealed bag...

**jadburner** · 23.09.2019, 06:05

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Hi jadburner,

I missed that I missed to answer you

Yeah, that was my original wish, but I have just retired my copy. It turned out, that the unit got bigger and bigger issues to read CDs and DVDs, however CD/DVD burning did work flawlessly. I suspected some driver issues after playing with AnyDVD and DVDFab, because usually cold boot with disc in was successful.

Now I definitely excluded external factors, tried the drive in external case and with another PC - BD laser reads BD-ROM discs, but with BD-R and BD-RE shows media as empty (strangely each time is able the MID of inserted disc independently of type). Cleaning with compressed air and some cotton pads did not bring any BD improvement, CD/DVD readability was restored to normal.

I even tried flashing with older SC01 and re-flashing with original SC01 firmware - no luck there.

I wonder if the diode itself was so crappy or maybe the environment killed it? I noticed some fine dust inside of the unit, there is no sealing at all that could stop it.

I just installed Optiarc BD-5750L instead, (BC-5500S kept crashing for some reason), but if the dust is the killer I'd rather save the burner in a sealed bag...

Hi, zenonz. Sorry to hear about your drive. I've only used mine to burn discs so far, so I don't know if mine will start showing the same signs of deterioration as yours did.

I hope your BD-5750L works more reliably.

zenonz · 23.09.2019, 09:04

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Hi, zenonz. Sorry to hear about your drive. I've only used mine to burn discs so far, so I don't know if mine will start showing the same signs of deterioration as yours did.

I hope your BD-5750L works more reliably.

Thanks,

Strangely the drive still seems to burn perfectly fine every type of media, and while reading discs seeking time is just normal, no extra "chewing" and media gets identified properly. But the mystery will have to remain unsolved :-)

zenonz · 28.09.2019, 00:22

OK, projekt w piątek po południu zakończony, TS-LB23D powrócił do laptopa

Jakoś nie dawało mi spokoju to że napęd bezbłędnie odczytuje dyski Panasonic BD-RE SL i DL (MEI-T01-001), ale nie dawał rady BD-R i BD-RE Verbatim (CMCMAGCN2 i VERBAT-IM0-000) .

OK, Friday afternoon project completed, TS-LB23D is back in the laptop
I couldn't let the drive retire, when it read flawlessly Panasonic BD-RE SL and DL discs (MEI-T01-001), but failed on most BD-R and Verbatim's BD-RE (CMCMAGCN2 and VERBAT-IM0-000).

Najpierw dobrałem się do dwóch trymerów, ale regulacja w zakresie ***177;180 stopni każdym z nich nic nie zmieniała.

I decided to play a bit with the unit having a closer look at the OPU. First I tried to play with those trimmers, but I haven't noticed any change when turning both of them in the range of ***177;180 degrees:

Więc rozebrałem nieco więcej i starałem się przedmuchać wszelkie elekemnty optyczne:

So I dismantled even more and tried to clean all optical elements with air duster:

but as I couldn't find a way to clean the mirror/prism under lens, it's clearly dusty:

Zgodnie z oczekiwaniami to pierdzenie powietrzem z puszki nic nie pomogło, ale za to w końcu odnalazłem właściwe pokrętełko

Po godzinie prób i błędów udało się ustawić tak, by napęd czytał wszystkie płyty oprócz CMCMAGCN2, tę przeżuwa długo, po czym czasem Imgburn wyrzuca komunikat o zabezpieczeniu AACS

To i tak postęp niż nie mieć wcale BD

As expected "cleaning" did not improve anything, and then finally I found one more trimmer After 1 hours trial and error I was able to recover BD-R and BD-RE VERBAT-IM0-000 readability, CMCMAGCN2 is struggling, sometimes Imgburn complains that the disc is AACS protected, sometimes not read at all, but in the end such BD readability is still better than no BD laser at all

Ciekawe czy po tym "spa" napęd jeszcze potrafi nagrywać

I wonder if the drive still can burn anything after this

@jadburner: If you happen to have your copy of that drive can you check BD scanning? On my unit scanning works both in Nero CD-DVD Speed and ODC, but is extremely slow (disc spins at full speed but diode blinks only few seconds), I wonder if HP fw behaves differently in that aspect.

**jadburner** · 06.10.2019, 05:27

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@jadburner: If you happen to have your copy of that drive can you check BD scanning? On my unit scanning works both in Nero CD-DVD Speed and ODC, but is extremely slow (disc spins at full speed but diode blinks only few seconds), I wonder if HP fw behaves differently in that aspect.
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Sure, I will find my drive and check scanning. Give me a couple of days to find it.

Jasne, znajd***281; dysk i sprawdz***281; skanowanie. Daj mi kilka dni na znalezienie.

**jadburner** · 09.10.2019, 04:44

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@jadburner: If you happen to have your copy of that drive can you check BD scanning? On my unit scanning works both in Nero CD-DVD Speed and ODC, but is extremely slow (disc spins at full speed but diode blinks only few seconds), I wonder if HP fw behaves differently in that aspect.
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My drive is able to scan BD-Rs at 2x, 4x, and 6x in ODC and QPxTool. My version of Nero does not support BD scanning, and the drive does not scan in PlexTools.

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05.01.2019, 01:35	#91
zenonz Wymiatacz Data rejestracji: 05.02.2017 Posty: 510	Hi jadburner, 50% off-topic - have you checked BD-R readability of this drive? I don't know if my copy is dying after reading maybe 10-20 discs, but I noticed that it doesn't read some discs - it recognizes media type, reads MID code, but claims that media is empty. So far I came to a following list: Kod: MID TS-LB23D CMCMAG-BA3-000 "empty" (TDK) CMCMAG-BA5-000 50% CMCMAG-BA5-000 ok CMCMAG-BA5-000 ok CMCMAG-BA5-000 ok CMCMAG-DI6-000 ok INFOME-R30-000 "empty" (Philips) MEI-RA1-001 ok MEI-T01-001 ok MEI-T02-001 ok PHILIP-R04-000 ok RITEK-BR2-000 ok TDKBLD-RBB-000 "empty" (FTI Pro) UMEBDR-016-000 "empty" (Kodak) VERBAT-IMa-000 ok VERBAT-IMc-000 ok VERBAT-IMe-000 ok VERBAT-IMu-000 "empty" (Verbatim LTH) I assume that it can be an issue of my unit, but strangely it reads flawlessy terrible copies of PHILIP-R04 or BD-RE DL...

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28.09.2019, 00:22	#96
zenonz Wymiatacz Data rejestracji: 05.02.2017 Posty: 510	OK, projekt w piątek po południu zakończony, TS-LB23D powrócił do laptopa Jakoś nie dawało mi spokoju to że napęd bezbłędnie odczytuje dyski Panasonic BD-RE SL i DL (MEI-T01-001), ale nie dawał rady BD-R i BD-RE Verbatim (CMCMAGCN2 i VERBAT-IM0-000) . OK, Friday afternoon project completed, TS-LB23D is back in the laptop I couldn't let the drive retire, when it read flawlessly Panasonic BD-RE SL and DL discs (MEI-T01-001), but failed on most BD-R and Verbatim's BD-RE (CMCMAGCN2 and VERBAT-IM0-000). Najpierw dobrałem się do dwóch trymerów, ale regulacja w zakresie *177;180 stopni każdym z nich nic nie zmieniała. I decided to play a bit with the unit having a closer look at the OPU. First I tried to play with those trimmers, but I haven't noticed any change when turning both of them in the range of 177;180 degrees: Więc rozebrałem nieco więcej i starałem się przedmuchać wszelkie elekemnty optyczne: So I dismantled even more and tried to clean all optical elements with air duster:* but as I couldn't find a way to clean the mirror/prism under lens, it's clearly dusty: Zgodnie z oczekiwaniami to pierdzenie powietrzem z puszki nic nie pomogło, ale za to w końcu odnalazłem właściwe pokrętełko Po godzinie prób i błędów udało się ustawić tak, by napęd czytał wszystkie płyty oprócz CMCMAGCN2, tę przeżuwa długo, po czym czasem Imgburn wyrzuca komunikat o zabezpieczeniu AACS To i tak postęp niż nie mieć wcale BD As expected "cleaning" did not improve anything, and then finally I found one more trimmer After 1 hours trial and error I was able to recover BD-R and BD-RE VERBAT-IM0-000 readability, CMCMAGCN2 is struggling, sometimes Imgburn complains that the disc is AACS protected, sometimes not read at all, but in the end such BD readability is still better than no BD laser at all Ciekawe czy po tym "spa" napęd jeszcze potrafi nagrywać I wonder if the drive still can burn anything after this @jadburner: If you happen to have your copy of that drive can you check BD scanning? On my unit scanning works both in Nero CD-DVD Speed and ODC, but is extremely slow (disc spins at full speed but diode blinks only few seconds), I wonder if HP fw behaves differently in that aspect.

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