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secretgarden 09.11.2026 21:16

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Napisany przez Oinker (Post 1480438)
Got it used from amazon market place in June 2014, about a year old at the time. Considering that I burned plenty of discs with it, mostly single layer discs which - as I mentioned already - take about 15 minutes to write @ 6x speed, I still don't see that the data makes sense.
The duplicator story is possible though, then again I own it for more than 12 years now, still seems odd.

Our developers are also collecting more real-world test data, but so far, there hasn't been a significant amount of truly "abnormal data." Only ultra-slim USB drives show slight variations.

Oinker 09.11.2026 21:12

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Napisany przez secretgarden (Post 1480436)
Yes, this kind of data is actually quite normal. I have a similar used drive where the empty tray cycle count is double the actual disc load count. The eject button on mine is already loose, so I can only assume the previous owner just enjoyed pressing it from time to time!

However, looking at your data, the BD write and read times are nearly symmetrical, meaning each write takes over an hour. This is common when burning BD-R DL discs at low speeds to prioritize quality (as far as I know, the 208DBK doesn't support BDXL on its original firmware). Furthermore, a verification process is usually run after the writing is complete, which explains why the read times are extended by the exact same amount.

I'm curious, where did you get this drive? Was the firmware already flashed when you received it? I strongly suspect your drive was pulled from a large-scale disc duplicator tower. In those setups, the drive trays are synchronized, which perfectly explains the unusually high number of idle cycles; the operator wouldn't necessarily load a blank disc into every single drive during every copy cycle.

Got it used from amazon market place in June 2014, about a year old at the time. Considering that I burned plenty of discs with it, mostly single layer discs which - as I mentioned already - take about 15 minutes to write @ 6x speed, I still don't see that the data makes sense.
The duplicator story is possible though, then again I own it for more than 12 years now, still seems odd.

The firmware was flashed by me about 4 years ago in 2022, after I got BDRFlash.

secretgarden 09.11.2026 20:44

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Napisany przez Oinker (Post 1480434)
Interesting tool, but something seems wrong here, I'm supposed to believe that my 208D@S11JX has 2288 empty tray cycles!? And just 178 BD cycles, but 250 hours BD write? That'd be more than 1 hour per writing cycle. But writing a BD-R @ 6x just takes around 15 minutes?

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Napisany przez czary2mary (Post 1480435)
We identify the topic as interesting and useful, and I am testing it.

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This is an almost brand-new 212BK!

secretgarden 09.11.2026 20:41

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Napisany przez Oinker (Post 1480434)
Interesting tool, but something seems wrong here, I'm supposed to believe that my 208D@S11JX has 2288 empty tray cycles!? And just 178 BD cycles, but 250 hours BD write? That'd be more than 1 hour per writing cycle. But writing a BD-R @ 6x just takes around 15 minutes?

Yes, this kind of data is actually quite normal. I have a similar used drive where the empty tray cycle count is double the actual disc load count. The eject button on mine is already loose, so I can only assume the previous owner just enjoyed pressing it from time to time!

However, looking at your data, the BD write and read times are nearly symmetrical, meaning each write takes over an hour. This is common when burning BD-R DL discs at low speeds to prioritize quality (as far as I know, the 208DBK doesn't support BDXL on its original firmware). Furthermore, a verification process is usually run after the writing is complete, which explains why the read times are extended by the exact same amount.

I'm curious, where did you get this drive? Was the firmware already flashed when you received it? I strongly suspect your drive was pulled from a large-scale disc duplicator tower. In those setups, the drive trays are synchronized, which perfectly explains the unusually high number of idle cycles; the operator wouldn't necessarily load a blank disc into every single drive during every copy cycle.

czary2mary 09.11.2026 20:40

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We identify the topic as interesting and useful, and I am testing it.

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Oinker 09.11.2026 19:57

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Interesting tool, but something seems wrong here, I'm supposed to believe that my 208D@S11JX has 2288 empty tray cycles!? And just 178 BD cycles, but 250 hours BD write? That'd be more than 1 hour per writing cycle. But writing a BD-R @ 6x just takes around 15 minutes?

secretgarden 09.11.2026 18:53

Pioneer blue-ray optical drive diagnostic tool
 
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Sorry for my English. This tool was developed by members of our (Chinese-language) community to diagnose data from Pioneer drives. Specifically, power-on hours and tray-load cycle counts.

Mainland China has long been a source of counterfeit or substandard pioneer drives, and our community members have suffered the consequences for a long time; this tool was created by a few of us to help prevent others from falling victim to the same issue. Previously, we hadn't paid much attention to the international community, but that changed with the emergence of some new projects related to pioneer drives.

Due to language barriers, we haven't had much motivation to contribute to the international community, but we've been keeping a close eye on developments in the community and the optical storage industry nonetheless. We hope to bring more good news to the community in the future.

At this time, this tool is not yet ready to be released as an open-source project, but if you're interested, feel free to give it a try here. :)

https://github.com/RevokeTime/pion-bdre-diag-tool
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