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Napisany przez czary2mary (Post 1383067)

@jadburner

It is already Pioneer Dvrive for models BDR-211-xBK

Pioneer BD Drive Utility for BDR-211 _v1.2.0.0
http://pioneer.jp/device_e/product-e...1_v1.2.0.0.exe

Great, thanks!

@jadburner

It is already Pioneer Dvrive for models BDR-211-xBK

Pioneer BD Drive Utility for BDR-211 _v1.2.0.0
http://pioneer.jp/device_e/product-e...1_v1.2.0.0.exe

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Napisany przez jadburner (Post 1383039)

Yours will have a different naming convention?

From what I know it will certainly:

Pioneer BDR-211 EBK -(E like Europe) = Pioneer BDR-211UBK- (U like USA) = Pioneer BDR-211JBK- (J like Japan)

and

Pioneer BDR-S11XLT

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Napisany przez czary2mary (Post 1383036)

We are also looking forward to the European versions ...

Yours will have a different naming convention?

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Napisany przez jadburner (Post 1383033)

Thanks for the info. Yes. :D

Let it know you.
We are also looking forward to the European versions ... which are always at the end ..:>

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Napisany przez czary2mary (Post 1383028)

@jadburner
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16827129090

Did you order? ;)

Thanks for the info. Yes. :D

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Napisany przez czary2mary (Post 1382617)

The drastic reduction of the optical market has resulted in huge cost reductions and therefore QSI drives clones today are the true Pioneer DVRs ...:(

:( :( :(

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Napisany przez jadburner (Post 1382613)

I agree that it doesn't make any sense for Pioneer not to include that feature in their BDR-X09 and BDR-X11 series drives. Unless they don't wan't to expend the resources to maintain it? ???

This is probably the same reason why Pioneer does not design or manufacture DVD drives.
The drastic reduction of the optical market has resulted in huge cost reductions and therefore QSI drives clones today are the true Pioneer DVRs ...:(

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Napisany przez czary2mary (Post 1382585)

I'm very surprised and disappointed that there are no Pioneer BDRs -S09\11J-X on this Audio Optimized Write technology.:ysz:

Look ..:)
Pioneer DVR-117 \-A17 \-217 \-S17 Audio Optimized Write

I agree that it doesn't make any sense for Pioneer not to include that feature in their BDR-X09 and BDR-X11 series drives. Unless they don't wan't to expend the resources to maintain it? ???

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Napisany przez jadburner (Post 1382547)

:taktak:

I'm very surprised and disappointed that there are no Pioneer BDRs -S09\11J-X on this Audio Optimized Write technology.:ysz:

Look ..:)
Pioneer DVR-117 \-A17 \-217 \-S17 Audio Optimized Write

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Napisany przez czary2mary (Post 1382390)

It looks like this setting only applies to the CD-R Audio audio read mode.

:taktak:

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Napisany przez jadburner (Post 1382388)

I tried to use the Check CD option, but it requires an audio CD. It does not appear to work with a blank CD or a music CD. I'll check, but I'm not sure if I have any audio CDs.

It looks like this setting only applies to the CD-R Audio audio read mode.:wow:
http://pioneer.jp/pcperipherals/bdd/...ts/bdr_s11j_x/

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I tried to use the Check CD option, but it requires an audio CD. It does not appear to work with a blank CD or a music CD. I'll check, but I'm not sure if I have any audio CDs.

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Napisany przez czary2mary (Post 1382222)

@jadburner :)

Have you tested the BDR-S11J-X CD Check settings?
Do Full and Quick settings change strategy and write speed of CD-R?
Are there any visible differences in CD-R drive performance in these two modes?

I have not yet checked those settings. Mine is currently set to Full. I'll check them out and report back.

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Napisany przez czary2mary (Post 1381806)

Maybe they just test it and prepare for production?
http://www.ritek.com/p2-pro1-bd.asp
http://www.ritek.com/dl/BD-R%20Compa...03_01_2016.pdf

Yes, more than likely they provide support for that MID in anticipation that it might come out. The same situation occurred when some DVD drive manufacturers put support for MKM-004 in their firmware, even though that MID was never available.

Strange that even on the site RITEK nothing about this media.
Maybe they just test it and prepare for production?
http://www.ritek.com/p2-pro1-bd.asp
http://www.ritek.com/dl/BD-R%20Compa...03_01_2016.pdf

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Napisany przez czary2mary (Post 1381779)

@jadburner
Are you in the US media MID:Ritek BR4? Have you ever met such sales?
They have support for writing x16.

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I have never seen any RITEK-BR4. I tried some Ritek discs marked as 12x BD-R a year or so ago, but they were RITEK-BR3 and burned very poorly. If there are any RITEK-BR4 around, I'd love to try some.

@jadburner
Are you in the US media MID:Ritek BR4? Have you ever met such sales?
They have support for writing x16.

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Pioneer BDR-S11J-BK Firmware 1.02
http://www.cdrinfo.pl/bios/17096042214

Pioneer BDR-S11J-X Firmware 1.02
http://www.cdrinfo.pl/bios/17096042417

Change log:
* Improved playback compatibility of Ultra HD Blu-ray
* BD-R DL Recording characteristics improvement (TDK 4x Media)

Media List \lista wspieranych nośników:
http://pioneer.jp/device_e/product-e..._Medialist.pdf

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Napisany przez jadburner (Post 1381586)

I wonder if it's the drive or the AL2A firmware?

At 99.999999999999999999999999999999% it is the fault of the drive software ;)

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Napisany przez czary2mary (Post 1381584)

suspect there is some bug in LiteOn iHAS 524B

I wonder if it's the drive or the AL2A firmware?

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Napisany przez jadburner (Post 1381582)

Only 100 years? I'll ship you some M-DISCs to scan. They'll last. :D

All in all, since you send it by sea mail, you will reach Poland in just 1000 years.
I checked on a few more pieces .. some detect others not
One disc detects M-Disc DVD + R systematically every second loading of the disc into the drive.
I suspect there is some bug in LiteOn iHAS 524B.

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Napisany przez czary2mary (Post 1381563)

I have a supply for 100 years ... ;)

Only 100 years? I'll ship you some M-DISCs to scan. They'll last. :D

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Napisany przez jadburner (Post 1381556)

A dozen?! :spoko:

I should send my burns to you to scan. :D

I have a supply for 100 years ... ;)
To ship to the test a little distance away .... :>

Verbatim's BD-R XL excellent tests - Thank you for your amazing work! :spoko:
You are happy to see your tests .:uklon::uklon::uklon:

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Verbatim 4x BD-R TL
White inkjet hub printable
VERBATIMk (Made in Japan)
BDR-S11J (1.01)
OPC off
@ 6x

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Verbatim 4x BD-R TL
White inkjet hub printable
VERBATIMk (Made in Japan)
BDR-S11J (1.01)
OPC off
@ 4x

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Verbatim 4x BD-R TL
White inkjet hub printable
VERBATIMk (Made in Japan)
BDR-S11J (1.01)
OPC off
@ 2x

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Verbatim 4x BD-R TL
White inkjet hub printable
VERBATIMk (Made in Japan)
BDR-S11J (1.01)
OPC on
@ 6x

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Verbatim 4x BD-R TL
White inkjet hub printable
VERBATIMk (Made in Japan)
BDR-S11J (1.01)
OPC on
@ 4x

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Verbatim 4x BD-R TL
White inkjet hub printable
VERBATIMk (Made in Japan)
BDR-S11J (1.01)
OPC on
@ 2x

I still haven't found any software that will properly display a .ibg file for 100GB burns.

Note that the WH16NS58 only scans @ 6x. The WH16NS48 scan is @ 4x.

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Napisany przez czary2mary (Post 1381550)

I still have a dozen pieces of LiteOn iHAS 524 B.

A dozen?! :spoko:

I should send my burns to you to scan. :D

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Napisany przez jadburner (Post 1381548)

Very strange. :ysz:

:taktak:

I still have a dozen pieces of LiteOn iHAS 524 B.
In my free time I will look at others as it looks ....

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Napisany przez czary2mary (Post 1381536)

Strange ?

Very strange. :ysz:

Dziwne ? :hmm:

U mnie nowa LiteOn iHAS 524 B rozpoznaje M-Disc DVD+R , natomiast prawie nowa - 23 zapisy na liczniku nie rozpoznaje prawidłowo ...

LiteOn iHAS 524 A i LiteOn iHAS 624 B prawidłowo rozpoznają .

Strange ?

The new LiteOn iHAS 524 B recognizes the M-Disc DVD + R, while almost new - 23 records on the counter do not recognize correctly ...

LiteOn iHAS 524 A \ LiteOn iHAS 624 B correctly recognize.

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(iHAS524-B would not recognize this disc)

I have the same problem sometimes with M-DISCs. :(

Verbatim M-DISC 4x DVD+R
Branded
MILLENIA 001 (Made in Taiwan)
BDR-S11J (1.01)
@ 4x

(iHAS524-B would not recognize this disc)

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Verbatim M-DISC 4x DVD+R
Branded
MILLENIA 001 (Made in Taiwan)
BDR-S11J (1.01)
@ 2.4x

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Napisany przez czary2mary (Post 1381323)

Recently I bought Pioneer DVR-216EA in Japan with the date of June 2011 and firmware 1.05

Very nice! :spoko:

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Napisany przez jadburner (Post 1381322)

You're very welcome. I have been on the lookout for the BDR-211, but it does not appear to be available yet. Hopefully soon.

I agree, you do need a BDR-S11J. :)

I think I will soon start hunting him in Japan ...
Recently I bought Pioneer DVR-216EA in Japan with the date of June 2011 and firmware 1.05 .
@Bleckened2687 will be happy ..;)
http://page15.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/j...ion/t506521507

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Napisany przez czary2mary (Post 1381304)

Thank you very much for the information and the tests ..:spoko: :piwo:
I wonder if the BDR-211 will have x2,4 gears for DVD + R 16?
I also want to have a BDR-S11J ..;)

You're very welcome. I have been on the lookout for the BDR-211, but it does not appear to be available yet. Hopefully soon.

I agree, you do need a BDR-S11J. :)

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Napisany przez jadburner (Post 1381276)

Yes, the drive will burn DVD+R and DVD+R DL @ 2.4x. I believe the slowest burn speed for DVD-R is 4x, but I'll have to verify.

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Napisany przez jadburner (Post 1381296)

I verified that the slowest write speed for 16x DVD-R is 4x.

Thank you very much for the information and the tests ..:spoko: :piwo:
I wonder if the BDR-211 will have x2,4 gears for DVD + R 16?
I also want to have a BDR-S11J ..;)

I verified that the slowest write speed for 16x DVD-R is 4x.

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Napisany przez czary2mary (Post 1381265)

Do you have a x2,4 speed for a DVD+R x16 in the Pioneer BDR-S11J?

Is the x2 speed available for DVD-R x16?

Yes, the drive will burn DVD+R and DVD+R DL @ 2.4x. I believe the slowest burn speed for DVD-R is 4x, but I'll have to verify.

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Napisany przez jadburner (Post 1381230)

PlexDisc 16x DVD+R
Branded (= Logo Top)
OPTODISC R16
BDR-S11J (1.01)
@ 2.4x

Do you have a x2,4 speed for a DVD+R x16 in the Pioneer BDR-S11J?

Is the x2 speed available for DVD-R x16?

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Napisany przez jadburner (Post 1380631)

So all they did was add 4K support to the S09?

It seems to me that at least chipset and software had to be adapted to the technology HDCP2.2 and HDR.
As for the rest of the hardware is only our observations, assumptions and suspicions ......;)

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Napisany przez czary2mary (Post 1380579)

@Blackened2687 probably rightly I noted the similarity to the BDR-209 \ S09.
Probably optical and mechanical is based on the design ..
What besides test results indicate identical versions of Pioneer Drive Utility.

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So all they did was add 4K support to the S09?

I didn't expect this BD to burn CDs that good. xD

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Napisany przez jadburner (Post 1380560)

I don't sleep very much. :)

Where have I heard this ? ;):spoko:

Great test scores to record CD-R Taiyo Yuden.:spoko:

@Blackened2687 probably rightly I noted the similarity to the BDR-209 \ S09.
Probably optical and mechanical is based on the design ..
What besides test results indicate identical versions of Pioneer Drive Utility.

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Napisany przez czary2mary (Post 1380558)

When you do all this? :wow::wow::wow:
Especially BluRay tests require a huge amount of time .... :uklon:
The amount of CD \ DVD \ BluRay used for testing not to mention .. .. :uklon:

I don't sleep very much. :) But you're right, it takes a LONG time to scan Blu-ray, especially BD-R DLs.

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Napisany przez jadburner (Post 1380556)

Yes, I'll be happy to.

When you do all this? :wow::wow::wow:
Especially BluRay tests require a huge amount of time .... :uklon:
The amount of CD \ DVD \ BluRay used for testing not to mention .. .. :uklon:

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Napisany przez Haker120 (Post 1380541)

@jadburner Could you test CD disc? :)

Yes, I'll be happy to.

Nice burn. :P I uderstand now more reliable is using Flash Drives/Memory Cards but this is not a reason to make poor quality burners. I'd love to have this Plextor. :D

@jadburner Could you test CD disc? :)

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Napisany przez Haker120 (Post 1380421)

Personally I prefer to pay more and to be sure device I bought isn't castrated. @czary2mary do we have, here, possibility to buy Japanese models?

After the Japan only purchase by Ebay, Amazon, and intermediaries such BayJapan.

Personally I prefer to pay more and to be sure device I bought isn't castrated. @czary2mary do we have, here, possibility to buy Japanese models?

It has always been so since I can remember ...
In Japan models or DVD or BluRay Axx-J \ Sxx-J always much more expensive compared to the other versions.
And if you have done in Japan in the factory Towada Japan .... that are already highly sought after and paid dearly.

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Napisany przez Haker120 (Post 1380405)

Interesting, however, I'm sure we, in europe, will get castrated models, as usuall. :\

Sorry to hear that. This one came from Japan. We'll be getting the BDR-211U soon here in the U.S. I imagine it will be inferior to the S11 also.

Interesting, however, I'm sure we, in europe, will get castrated models, as usuall. :\