BDR-211UBK won't play 4K discs that BDR-212UBK plays fine

[Klapaucjusz]

Hi folks, I have these two Pioneer UHD drives. A BDR-211UBK and a BDR-212UBK.

Th BDR-211UBK will not play 4K discs, it errors out with "Can't read AACS VID". Here's its info:

Drive Information
OS device name: E:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-211M
Revision: 1.54
Serial number: QHDL004326WL
Firmware date: 2023-02-08
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 60

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8800
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-211
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.54/ID60
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes


This BDR-212UBK on the other hand plays all the 4K discs the BDR-211UBK won't play. Here its info:

Drive Information
OS device name: F:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-212U
Revision: 1.05
Serial number: AGDL002378WL
Firmware date: 2023-08-01
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 60

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8F01
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-212T
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.05/ID58
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes


This is an example of a disc that the BDR-211UBK won't play:

Label: THE MARTIAN
Timestamp: 2016-01-28 18:11:08 -08:00
Capacity: 48.9 GB (25660960 sectors)
Authoring: ScenaristScenaristBD
Number of layers: 2
BEE: 1
BE : 0
DiscID: EB75B987AD93BE13EFEE36DFB6792F58B6059F9E
AACS: 2.0 v60

What is happening with the BDR-211UBK? I see that for both drives the highest sseen AACS version is v60.

Can someone explain?


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[skyrider]

Is the BDR-211UBK drive connected directly to SATA, or are you using it in an external USB enclosure?
If it's an external enclosure, connect the drive directly to the computer's USB port (with no USB hubs in between) or directly to a SATA port if you can.
Also paste the full error log from MakeMKV.

[Klapaucjusz]

I did more testing. I connected the BDR-211UBK drive via SATA and LibreDrive works fine now.


So leaving this post up for those who have the same problem.


Really bizarre that I have three other drives (2x Pioneer, 1x Asus) that work fine in three different USB enclosures.


Only this BDR-211UBK refuses to run in LibreDrive mode over USB (connected directly to computer, no hubs), but it works over SATA.


I'll do more testing and try different USB ports, too. This is so weird.

[misiozol]

Let me guess W11 ?

[Klapaucjusz]

Yep, Windows 11 25H2. Is there something specific about it?

[misiozol]

You've guess it

[Klapaucjusz]

Can you explain?

[Klapaucjusz]

So it's not Windows 11 after all .

I suspected it was the 1.54 firmware in the BDR-211UBK being extra picky about the USB-SATA chipset, so I got the Benfei USB-SATA adapter recommended on the MakeMKV forum, and the BDR-211UBK works perfectly with it.

So this confirms to me that the BDR-211UBK on official 1.54 firmware is a lot more picky about USB-SATA chipsets than the BDR-212UBK on the official 1.05 firmware. Working great on Windows 11.

[Coopervid]

Glad that the Benfei I recommended could fix it. And it shows that some USB-> SATA bridges don't pass all commands.

[Klapaucjusz]

Napisany przez Coopervid

Glad that the Benfei I recommended could fix it. And it shows that some USB-> SATA bridges don't pass all commands.

Oh hey, good to see you here.

Thanks again for that suggestion! I ordered two more of those adapters just in case they stop making them.

I wonder what the extra commands are that the BDR-211UBK specifically needs that my enclosures don't pass but the Benfei and plain SATA do.

[misiozol]

We have dedicated topic about sata<>usb adapters.

Adaptery USB - SATA/PATA